Exhausted Jiren vs Kid Buu Discussion in 'Dragon Ball Battledome' started by Jiren the Gohan, Jul 3, 2018. Who Wins. And he took more than just a little bit of their energy, to the point where some Earthlings grew weak. Kid Buu>Gohan>Super Buu this is all canon facts hun. Jiren matched MUI only because it was unstable. My memory is fresh you need to actually watch DBZ Dearest. @karkus: Ah, fair enough I can see that. That alone debunks your " kid buu was playing with SSJ3 " arguement , Kid Buu stomped Vegeta and did not play with him for a second for a reason, So you are saying that just because Gohan gave his Energy means Gohan gave all of his power to the power bomb ? JavaScript is disabled. You are a funny funny man , but no you did not, " you think vegeta would go out of character ", I do not think he would , he did go out of character so the humans can save themselves for once, Not even a feat , spirit bombs power level seem to work in a different way. kid buu was not taking the fight seriously ". He beat Kid Buu who is stronger than Super Buu. Because kid buu would blow up earth , and then go on blowing up the other planets , did you forget the statement that i just gave you ? Your the one who do not understand DB scaling ", Claims the guy making totally illiterate claims about kid buu's power and wanking him for last 10 comments, It was Goku's nature to fight Kid buu on an equal standing till Goku ran out of Ki ? Kid Buu > Any other version of Buu(except current Fat buu). Him stomping vegeta SSJ2 while not stomping SSJ3 Goku , if he was suppressing himself to have fun why didnt he supress himself against Vegeta ? Headcanon after headcanon. Jiren vs Broly is a genuine toss up. SSG Goku vs Beerus (Anime Version) Honorable mention to every goddamn fight in the 23rd Budokai. Kid Buu also got scared by a bloodied up Base Vegeta, is Base Vegeta stronger than Kid Buu. but then they forget the nature in 7-3's ability to copy power and just abilities. The same MUI who made beerus loose his shit, @gelato_exotic: super buu bitchslaps that joke of a buu that got equalized by fodder like SSJ3 Goku, Are you the same dude from yesterday on the Isshiki vs. Super Buu thread I derailed and spent like 2 whole pages arguing with why Kid Buu>>Super Buu? And? This relies on the assumption that Gotenks is actually stronger than Kid Buu which he isn't. Vegeta was significantly weaker then Goku was and Buu literally almost killed him and beat him to a pulp while he was not able to beat Goku to a pulp like he beated Vegeta , if he was actually more then eight times stronger then Goku he would have stomped him hard but they fought a tough fight till the end, "Show me evidence of anyone being 8 times stronger then kid buu ", You accepted that Gotenks is significantly stronger then SSJ3 Goku , low balling gotenks , SSJ1 Gotenks = SSJ3 Goku , so gotenks is roughly 8 times more powerful then goku and superbuu scales to gotenks SSJ3 while Kid buu to SSJ3 Goku, He is weaker , like a decent bit weaker but was able to hurt Kid Buu at multiple moments WHILE Fat buu was confirmed weaker then SSJ3 Goku and a decent but weaker then SSJ3 Goku, " what evidence do you have on buu fighting at 100% ". He is not even capable of thinking of the concept of power suppression . It's shown and stated multiple times Kid Buu>Gotenks and Gohan. That's another point too, Goku was at full stamina and could've gone SS3 to stop the Death Ball from destroying the Earth had he been so equal but lolnope he couldn't. Definitely not a coincidence. Guy's died to planet busting explosion and gotten pierced by bullets lol. 1 Attack Dialogues 1.1 Meteor Attack 2 Match Dialogues 2.1 Sparking 2.2 Team Dialogues 2.3 Match Reset 2.4 Shenron 3 Miscellaneous Dialogues 3.1 Character Selection 3.2 Intro 3.3 Victory 3.4 Defeat 3.5 Results Screen 4 Navigation An asterisk (*) detonates that character has two different lines. Goku himself cowarded in the supreme kai dimension till he was given potara and didn't even consider fighting fighting buu without the earing that means buutenks is far above SSJ3 Goku + Gohan , we know that Mystic Gohan beats buu , so that means Gotenks is significantly more powerful then SSJ3 Goku . Needless to say, an attack that manages to actually do negative damage could only be straight out of Yamcha's playbook. Kid Buu is also no where near Mystic Gohan level. Pls stop with the headcanon thanks, The Super Buu wank is honestly deplorable bro like, " Goku still said blah blah blah inb4 planet bust BS ", You are calling facts BS , its a fact that kid buu would blow up earth and Saiyans would die in the soacr, I am tired of yours and your disability to not understand power scaling. It's so blatantly obvious what happened. Edit 3: this might be the WORST sub I've ever seen for downvoting things just because you don't like it. I guess they've forgotten that Whis told Vegeta that if he masters UI then he'd be able to take on any enemy. Show me a statement or any sort of evidence mentioning anyone being 8 times stronger than Kid Buu, you can't. Thats all the proof needed.Welcome to the DB community where the same 3 controversial topics will always resurface. Since Merus is alive I wonder what his reaction to the whole senzu bean situation is gonna be. 3 days ago. Matching the speed and strength of a suppressed goofing off Buu trying to drag the fight on purpose to have fun as Goku stated, that's cool. And hurting Kid Buu at multiple equations unlike Vegeta who was clearly weaker and Kid buu stomped him ? Half your statements literally contradict what's shown and said in the manga. Messages: 907 Likes Received: 85 Trophy Points: 154 Joined: Jul 1, 2017 Reputation: Exhausted Jiren from the Final Episode of Super vs Kid Buu. Beerus is above Moro who is way stronger than Jiren. Goku, Freeza and 17 vs Jiren. There's 3 statements implicating he did LMFAOOO. Him straight up going for blowing the underworld and not suppressing himself. Beerus doesn't have any feats or statements that'd put him above Jiren. Give me one evidence that Gohan gave all of his Ki for spirit bomb, Gohan one shots Earth/Underworld and Namek with one hand , Gohan is ATLEAST Galactic and until you believe fat buu > Super Buu , it is not deniable, " your arguement would only work if SSJ3 Goku = Kid Buu ". Screw statements, sheer feats tell us 100% of the time who is stronger than who.Gohan was irrelevant against Kid Buu and no one pushed him as a legitimate option. Goku and Kid Buu were fighting equally till Goku realized that the reason he was able to use SSJ3 perfectly as dead was because neing dead granted him infinite Stamina and Ki , kid Buu seemed to have infinite stamina so Kid Buu won the fight because goku just ran out of stamina as he had never used that form as alive . @aryansingh: You're just parroting stupid arguments that I already destroyed in the other thread. Yeah, so much for that. He wasn't asleep like before and what you're saying is pure headcanon. Source - https://images.app.goo.gl/H1PpNjcuRky8VzYF9: Kid buu wank is ridiculous and mind boggling like bruh. Main article: Dragon Ball Z: Shin Budokai - Another RoadAfter Future Super Buu eats Future Babidi for his treachery, he changes form: upon gaining Future Babidi's power, Future Super Buu changes form and achieves his pure form, Future Kid Buu, who begins feeling an intense pain before discharging Future Go… So Goku in two minutes of buu's presence was able to sense how powerful buu was ? He was putting on his best Saitama expression. Because he did not supress himself once in the entire fight , what manga shows >>>>>>>>>>>>>> what you want to make out of a vague statement, Gohan nearly stomped a character 8 times more powerful then Kid Buu, Fat Buu and Hercules helped AFTER goku lost his SSJ3 power , Fat Buu also in one scene beat the living shit out of kid buu when fat buu makes 4 clones, " Buu was laughing and making a fool of Goku while not at full power ", Sure , Fouth at 100% power for a long time while Clearly being hurt multiple times . I could ask the same for you, got any evidence Buu was actually going 100%? I would like to add that Kid Buu got one shotted by a normal Ssj3 Ki blast , he was destroyed to 100 of peices and the only reason he survived was his regeneration ability. Wstched the entire fight and he is clearly at full power , even at full power he got blasted to peieces by SSJ3 Goku . Hurting Buu with attacks really isn't an impressive feat unless he actively tries to resist and push back like during the Spirit Bomb. How the hell is he suppressed and getting outmatched at multiple.points ? Vegeta’s pride is not enough to sway him either, but fans pretty much knew that. @gelato_exotic: " goku could have gone SSJ3 but he did not because buu > SSJ3". JRN = Jiren KBU = Kid Buu KEF = Kefla KRL = Krillin MBU = Majin Buu RSH = Master Roshi NAP = Nappa PIC = Piccolo SBR = Broly (DBS) TEN = Tien TNK = Trunks VDL = Videl VGN = Vegeta VGT = Vegeta (Super Saiyan) VTO = SSB Vegito YAM = Yamcha YGH = Gohan (Teen) ZAM = Zamasu (Fused) Midscreen Combos Meterless . Forgot, Don't wanna waste my time again with the same conversation. He is most clearly capable of power supression. Goku looked bored fighting Angel Moro and told him to try harder. Buu was literally thrashing Vegeta around playing with his body. Your fanmade powerscale immediately falls apart when you realize that Kid Buu =/= SS3 Goku. Though even in the manga imo it's safe to say he's at least stronger than Super Buu due to being indicated to be stronger than Gohan, and no direct statements of Super Buu being stronger. And nope, Gohan wouldn't do shit to Kid Buu, no one would. Well, Im not a wanker never wanked buu lol. If Super Buu > SSJ3 Goku and the same SSJ3 Goku could at least fight with Kid Buu semi-evenly, then Super Buu >>>> Both. I already tackled all these arguments in that thread and I was yet to be debunked. This was after getting beat by Beerus in the manga. You are using an out of date browser. Also not sure about if Kid Buu > Super Buu, maybe someone should CAV it. Kid Buu vs Super Buu Jiren vs Broly vs Beerus Krillin vs Tenshinhan It was always obvious that Super Buu was far above Kid Buu. Human level Kid Buu confirmed. It's pretty obvious to me that Goku is already in the angel tier after mastering MUI, after all it's an angelic form, and we even have Merus/ Merus amped Moro to scale MUI to, so now we KNOW that it's an angel tier, it's no longer just speculation. Green is all about the Android Saga. It could have been called guardian of Peace Piccolo or some shit like that. Goku clearly states Kid buu is playing with them , manga >>> your headcanon ", Because he was jumping around , what gives you even a little idea that kid buu suppresseed his power against super saiyan 3 Goku ? I gave substantial reasoning as to why it scales to Gohan's full capacity yet Kid Buu was stronger. "I ain't INTERESTED in a buncha scrubs like you!! They fought on equal footing and Kid Buu stomped Vegeta , why didnt he suppress himself to " Play " with Vegeta ? Kid Buu vs Beerus? You think at such stakes Vegeta would go completely out of character to the point even King Kai and Goku laugh about it just to spite the humans? Jiren needed goku to go ssj and frieza to use a massive portion of his power to be beaten. @gelato_exotic: " you have not proved it ". He never even went anywhere near Hell/ the "Underworld" as you call it. By rewatching the fight between SSJ3 Goku and Kid Buu in AMV form , it is clear kid buu was not even closed to being suppressed , he gets punched , he gets ripped to peices , he gets his arm ripped out , they both fly toward each other to punch eather other and ended up punching each other , they did head bashes and at no point was Kid buu laughing except when he was on the top, he even screams in pain when goku hits his stomach with his knee . K, Goku still said Kid Buu would've killed everyone. Your argument only works if Kid Buu is actually equal to SS3 Goku which isn't the case. Burden of Proof is on you now. SS3 Gotenks was stronger than Super Buu and so is Kid Buu. No one was expecting Frieza to resort to that though and as far as they knew he was already defeated and dead. In the panel posted Goku himself mentions Kid Buu having fun with and dragging out the entire fight. Kid Buu had no such demeanor ever lol. Unless you think God Goku and Vegeta are planet level despite having Universal feats for being hurt by Moro's planet energy or that Namek Frieza is Tree level. The anime really set it in stone who's intended to be stronger lul. Matching his speed/Strength/Ki Blasts , yaeh that seems to be pretty equal but Buu won because of Durability and Stamina, " all that proves Goku is stronger then vegeta ", SSJ2 Vegeta scales to SSJ2 goku , you used goku saying needing SSJ3 to even stand a chance as a point and i used that fight to tell you the massive gulf between 3 and 2 and how kid buu stomped vegeta but not goku and did npt supppress his power to " play " with vegeta , why ? Got anything new, Kid Buu still stomps Super Buu is pure fodder, @gelato_exotic: there is not a single factor saying kid buu > Super buu except the total bullshit retarded meassure of Ki in power bomb BS. And this still doesn't prove SS3 Goku is equal to Kid Buu since in none of these fights he was fully exerting himself, something you still haven't proven. Not a credible feat. Kid Buu was literally toying with them, Goku said this himself at one point and you could clearly tell with how he was goofing around and laughing at them the entire fight. Beerus doesn't have any feats or statements that'd put him above Jiren. If anything Spirit Bomb's power level via Genki is way stronger than the source like I explained to you in the other thread. He was able to power into SS3 immediately when they fought on in the Kaioshin Realm, same should've happened on Earth if he could've stopped it. Goku : even if he is back to normal , he is still way more powerful then us, https://images.app.goo.gl/hgkxbehapsk2WVdx5, Super Buu >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SSJ3 Goku + SSJ2 Vegeta, Base Jiren washes Beerus just like he did the clown, Oh so it is you. Kid Buu on the other hand was an actively impending threat. Goku himself already explained why he didn't get stomped which I've posted above. You must log in or register to reply here. Lol, Goku needed an entire ass minute to charge up Ki at full power to have a chance at possibly taking out Buu. Maybe because he never suppressed his power. @gelato_exotic: In the anime definitely. You're the one who doesn't understand DB scaling at all hun. @karkus: Damn I thought you agreed with Kid Buu>Buuhan the other day. Kid Buu vs Jiren? We know thanx to goku and toriyamas interview that there is a minimal treshold of ki needed. Other than this Buu is pretty much a limitless fighting machine with the ability to manipulate his body and any way he sees fit in order to prevent himself from getting thrown out of the ring. Do you want to run your own modding site? Frieza, Cell, Buu... they all became weakling in time, and it should be expected that the same would happen to Beerus and the rest of GoD tier. Kid Buu>SS3. Who would win between Moro or Jiren? Combo Damage Meter Gain and buu blew up the planet immediately , Goku had to teleport to Kaioshin realm to just survive because the planet was gone . " The red super rare slot that jiren takes should have gone to Kid Buu. 7 NEEDED HELP: Goku Vs Kid Buu. No i am being objective while you are worshipping Kid Buu . " @gelato_exotic: " assuming kid buu was figting at full power ", " it is stated multiple time kid buu > Gotenks and Gohan ". SSJ2 Vegeta scales to SSJ2 goku , you used goku saying needing SSJ3 to even stand a chance as a point and i used that fight to tell you the massive gulf between 3 and 2 and how kid buu stomped vegeta but not goku and did npt supppress his power to " play " with vegeta , why ? Though, if you wanna see what a bloodlusted full power Buu looks like, refer to the scene with Buuhan's Vice Shout. "Full power to even have a chance". Doesn't matter, fact is he said himself he couldn't stop it him and Vegeta combined and should've been able to with SS3 if he's equal to Kid Buu. And about him laughing , that is just his nature , he was laughing all the time even if the opponent is on equal footing , he was laughing when he moved the spirit bomb an inch toward goku. Now I really know you have no idea what you're talking about at all lmao. Take a second to look at our. 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