That's how the dub made it look atleast. Killing the most makes you good. Their encouragement works and Gohan returns his focus to the battle at hand. The initial manga, written and illustrated by Toriyama, was serialized in Weekly Shōnen Jump from 1984 to 1995, with the 519 individual chapters collected into 42 tankōbon volumes by its publisher Shueisha. I DO NOT OWN DRAGONBALL DRAGON BALL Z nor DRAGON BALL GT. So i was just wondering if he takes any guilt in the fact that he killed a man who was there for him his entire life. Evil people don't deserve to be brought back and get a second chance. He is al… Flight – The ability to take flight through the manipulation of ki. We dont know how long it takes, but its not suggested to be long, and Freeza was indicated to have been an odd case, meaning whatever the normal time is its lower than how long Freeza was there, which wasnt much longer than Nappa was. What else could he regret now? That is canon. In the general DB universe, even so. In the DBS manga it was revealed that Vegeta regretted slaughtering the Namekian village on Planet Namek. Has he ever expressed anything close to that? This can be said for Vegeta, who even though his planet and people were mostly destroyed, he doesn't seem to find other Saiyans' company that pleasing. Can Cell be called a "handsome" in his perfect form in sharp contrast to his previous forms? I would assume he feels bad for his reasoning but not his actions, Nappa was a sadistic POS, no bother crying about his death, but reflecting on what caused him to kill Nappa might be something Vegeta would ponder now he is a better person. © 2020 reddit inc. All rights reserved. I wrote something about friezas tech but i had to rewrite so i cut it out. [–]AlphaTenken 0 points1 point2 points 3 days ago (0 children). But now Vegeta has changed and may be feeling guilty about killing his foster father. Yeah vegeta was a Dick. (The process that Piccolo describes in the Buu Saga). He can't be brought back short of the Super Dragon Balls and even if he could, no one would do it. But that kind of glosses over the fact that those things still happened, doesn't it? And while Non Canon, in Dragon Ball FighterZ, if you build a bond with Vegeta he will tell the player he regrets most of the killing he did underneath Frieza's foot, and when controlled by Babidi. hell is a pitstop, heaven is eternal. Toyotarō interview: "Granola the Survivor". This attack was named in Dragon Ball: Raging Blast and is used by Vegeta in his Super Saiyan 3 form as one of his Super Attacks. They then head to Planet Earthand encounter the Z Fighters and killed them (excluding Krillin and Gohan). re: Why did Vegeta kill Nappa? While Vegeta has slowly shifted his alliance to the Z-Fighters, that still doesn't … Info. But then it would probably be a waste using that wish when it could be used for a better purpose. I m not saying vegeta was good, but theres plenty of times where goku and friends didnt go out of their way to save someone just cause first there is defeating the enemy and then dragonballs. So yeah reflection on his past behaviour but he would take no actions, Nappa is not worth reviving even if he could, he may enquire about Nappa's reincarnation, looking to see how the old soul is doing in his new life, which could be interesting to see, Vegeta see's a reincarnated now teenage Nappa and maybe does a Goku and offers to train the kid? After Buu overpowers every fighter, Vegeta sacrifices himself by using "Final Explosion" and hopes to kill Buu. He had to then swallow his pride and admit to Goku being Number One, why does he deserve to be spared vs Kid Buu. [–]DPM-87 0 points1 point2 points 3 days ago (0 children). [–]SSJRemuko 14 points15 points16 points 4 days ago (28 children). He doesnt care. vegeta did tell nappa to leave instead of out right killing him when he returned in GT but nappa was stupid so vegeta just blew him up again Ya know, I actually remember this. Whats do you think? Nappa disobeyed Vegeta and ended up crippling himself in the process, the guy is at his prime and is about half the strength as Vegeta, meanwhile Vegeta can only get stronger, he's a useless screw up who disobeyed direct orders and made himself redundant, no point wasting resources to save him, Vegeta and Nappa don't have that kind of relationship. He uses the Dirty Fireworks technique to kill it. Vegeta could have easily thought at that point in the story that he was doing Nappa a favor by killing him after he was shamed by being beaten by Goku. [–]atheistvegeta[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 days ago (1 child), [–]DBSdidnothingwrong 0 points1 point2 points 4 days ago (0 children), Multiple times in buu saga the reasoning was "ok let those people die, we have dragonballs anyway", [–]Whiteness88 0 points1 point2 points 4 days ago (0 children). He doesnt care about any of the saiyans, Nappa included. He was killed, as evil people should be, why does the how matter? How does Vegeta in Super feel about killing Nappa? After watching Nappa's defeat by Goku and marveling at the latter's abilities, Vegeta is disappointed that Nappa, an elite He had no regard for a person who was a loyal foster father to him, which is why he didn't hesitate killing him. Xeno Goku is probably my favorite Goku in modern dragon ball. Vegeta in Super is a changed man. The reason he gives is that losing against Goku makes Nappa weak. In the original anime, Nappa is the partner of Vegeta from Planet Vegeta, They first appear on the Arlian's planet before the Planet Vegeta is destroyed. Goku finally comes to save Krillin and Gohan from Nappa and Vegeta, Goku uses the Kaio-ken and defeated Nappa. If Nappa turns good he can be a Z fighter. REDDIT and the ALIEN Logo are registered trademarks of reddit inc. π Rendered by PID 3806 on r2-app-066f5c09ec14543c5 at 2020-12-23 23:17:38.185637+00:00 running 6abf2be country code: US. Discussion He was evil back then and showed no regard for the man who was caregiver for all those years in … For all he knows, Nappa is better off where he is now. Even if you don't like the person, killing someone is a whole different ballgame. Vegeta and Nappa then departed Earth, with Vegeta vowing to make Goku regret sparing him, and the space pod took them to one of the planets controlled by Freeza. When Vegeta and Nappa came to Earth, goku injured Nappa very badly. The Saibamen strike first, and Krillin and Piccolo go on the defensive while Gohan stands paralyzed with shock and awe, as they battle around hi… In almost every thread you make? I actually thought he respected his father and really loved him. He does feel guilty about all his past crimes, which entails Nappa's killing afterall? How would he react to have been reminded of the killing of Nappa? Why do you always do this? As a Saiyan. Lol @ anyone here comparing Vegeta … [–]forcebubble 0 points1 point2 points 3 days ago (1 child). This is something which has really intrigued me. Vegeta uses this attack to kill his former comrade Nappa. Unfortunately, Buu survives in the end. I don’t see why he would risk bringing Nappa back. Even Frieza respects BerryBlue more than Vegeta did Nappa. Bad people go to hell get cleansed and reincarnated. Earthlings have senzu, which can heal any injury in a moment. If Frieza's tech can regenerate eyes, then they can probably fix broken spines. This technique is used in Dragon Ball Z: The Legend. Vegeta and Nappa battle the Arlians and kill all of them. That was, in my opinion, the worst of all his crimes. Vegeta, desperate to surpass Goku, accepted the deal. I don't think there was. Dude doesn't even care about his own father. The same applies to the likes of Raditz who had even less of a case for 'reminiscing' but kept being brought up here for a very thin justification of blood relations to the protagonist. Do you think there was anything strange or stupid about my question? [–]xpnptheone 0 points1 point2 points 4 days ago (0 children), [–]GeeWhillickers 2 points3 points4 points 4 days ago (0 children). He killed because he saw no use for him which again is very evil. Burter. But good and evil are judgments from you. its not though. Goku crippled him breaking his spine. And I already mentioned that he regretted sparing Vegeta, showing that he can self-reflect and admit when he made a bad call. [–]DBSdidnothingwrong 0 points1 point2 points 4 days ago (4 children). Nappa was as much of a dick as he was and look at all the things Vegeta had to go through to become a decent guy. He had no gratitude towards Nappa for taking care of him for all those years. Which villain worked their way to their level of power instead of absorbing and stealing bodies or being born strong? Sure, the common argument is that Nappa died a long time ago and must have been reincarnated, but the canon said no such thing about people who died decades being impossible to revive, unless I'm wrong. But I think there's more you can read into it if you throw away the idea that Vegeta is a hardened veteran, which Arlia really nails down. He emerged unfazed by Krillin's Scattering Bullet, resist Chiaotzu's Farewell, Mr. Tien, and even survive Tien's Spirit Tri-Beam, only damaging his armor (albeit Vegeta noted that it probably would have killed Nappa if he hadn't seen the attack coming). Copy link. Please be respectful and avoid being unnecessarily confrontational. Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. Nappa was a piece of shit. If he has not been reincarnated, then presumably he is either in Heaven or in Hell being purified for future reincarnation. That's extremely evil. It's definitely very evil to kill someone who has been there for you your entire life, and Vegeta might be regretting that. He says my questions are strange. How does Vegeta in Super feel about killing Nappa? Or his behaviour during both the Cell and Buu saga? Vegeta and Nappa could be considered friends by the standards of the Saiyan culture though. Nappa was a bad person. and join one of thousands of communities. He also said his family was the best thing to happen to him. In that case, why should Vegeta take him away from that? Fast forward to Super, and Vegeta is a very different character, he's settled more comfortably into family life and sort of sees Earth as a home - but is there any evidence that this slow shift extends to feeling any kind of remorse for his past actions? only other time it did was 2nd form frieza and it cut off his tail and frieza was like 15+ times stronger at the time. [–]atheistvegeta[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 days ago (3 children). Atonement — assuming he even cared — would be empty and pointless. If playback doesn't begin shortly, try restarting your device. They would still do it because they care about their friends. Is he even capable of it. Vegeta was evil at the time and was an insolent brat. This is a subreddit for discussion; only text posts are allowed. Vegeta probably doesn't care. Galick Impact – A rush attack used by Vegeta in his fight with Semi-Perfect Cell. Bringing Nappa back brings back these memories and puts Bulla and Bulma in danger — he cannot protect them all, at all times should bald Saiyan wants revenge. Rendered by PID 3806 on r2-app-066f5c09ec14543c5 at 2020-12-23 23:17:38.185637+00:00 running 6abf2be country code: US. Vegeta just didn't value him enough to get him the medical aid he needed. Oh boy, does Vegeta regret ever letting curiosity get the better of him in this instance. Just like when Vegeta killed the Cultivar because it was going to lose against Tien, Vegeta … [–]DBSdidnothingwrong 1 point2 points3 points 4 days ago (6 children). [–]atheistvegeta[S] 1 point2 points3 points 4 days ago (4 children). Killing Namekians. The Saibamen face off with Krillin, Piccolo and Gohanas they prepare to fight. What would his response be? How does Vegeta in Super feel about killing Nappa?Discussion (self.dragonball). Majin Vegeta. Sure, the common argument is that Nappa died a long time ago and must have been reincarnated, but the canon said no such thing about people who died decades being impossible to revive, unless I'm wrong. Gohan is feeling rather intimidated by these powerful beings, but Krillin and Piccolo encourage him to keep them from psyching him out. Vegeta would have to carry him. Nappa could not move anymore. He sure was evil but was a good person to Vegeta, but was arguably less evil than Vegeta. It's arguably worse than anything Frieza did in the series. So i guess he sure can be brought back and him not having reincarnated can be explained the way they did Frieza. Vegeta had no issues killing his own f***ing boy, Nappa. Nappa would be a lost cause. [–]atheistvegeta[S] 1 point2 points3 points 4 days ago (5 children). The manga does have Vegeta reflect on his evil deeds. Assuming he even cared — notice the pattern in the responses you get in here? But what he did to nappa was actually mercy. I mean Vegeta only saw him an an implement because he, as in Vegeta was evil then. In his fight against the Z Fighters during the Vegeta Saga, Nappa is easily able to overpower their various tactics. Think of it this way. http://www.dbzeta.net/ Enjoy! Personally, it's just...life. When it came to his old friend Nappa, Vegeta seemed to consider him worthless after he lost to Goku, and as far as Goku is concerned, Vegeta has hated him since he first met him. Crawling on the ground is shaming for a sayan. obviously nappa dies. He got death, its what he deserved, for being a bad person. But in a battle situation, with a bloodlusted antagonist, all good guys attitude is "eh, we have dragonballs". souls go to hell, get cleansed, and reincarnated. [–]atheistvegeta[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 days ago (2 children). Would Goku kill Krillin if he was incapacitated? Being evil? As a Saiyan, Vegeta can naturally fly at incredible speeds with minimal effort. Vegeta also enjoys killing so that probably factored in. So what? Why he was killed isn't relevant. For what: For losing to Goku or for being evil? [–]SSJRemuko -1 points0 points1 point 4 days ago (8 children). Vegeta uses the attack to kill Nappa in the Vegeta Saga. If he tries to terrorize Earth then Vegeta can kill him easily that there'd be nothing wrong with that. "The Emperor Stirs") is the thirty third chapter of Dragon Ball Z and the two hundred twenty-seventh overall chapter of the Dragon Ball manga. We know how the afterlife works. As a elite Saiyan warrior, Vegeta has great mastery over his own Ki, the natural life force every being has, and uses it to increases his fighting abilities. We saw what he did to Goku's friends and the one city. Amongst others he spared (or tried to) for ethical reasons are: Raditz, Nappa, Recoome, Burter, Jeice, and Ginyu. Bringing him back shouldnt be something anyone wants. Nappa and Vegeta realize Raditz was defeated. Then Vegeta actually steps in to kill Nappa. Why Did Vegeta Kill Nappa? They can even explain it by saying that hell is for eternity (unless they were revived) and there is no reincarnation for deceased souls. He was evil back then and showed no regard for the man who was caregiver for all those years in his childhood and adolescence, but he's now a changed man. 1. We will rarely allow this, so don't expect anything. Shopping. [–]SSJRemuko 10 points11 points12 points 4 days ago (26 children). The moderation team reserves the right to action posts at their own discretion. [–]forcebubble 1 point2 points3 points 3 days ago (3 children). [–]atheistvegeta[S] -5 points-4 points-3 points 4 days ago (27 children). Like killing Nappa, for example? But saving his friend would be too much hassle even for a decent guy. [–]atheistvegeta[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 days ago (0 children). Good riddance. Could Cell Saga Tien's Neo Tri-Beam kill 4th form Frieza? Vegeta mercy-killed him. A Saibaman – Vegeta kills it after he sees it holding back against Tien Shinhan. He's gone. [–]DBSdidnothingwrong 0 points1 point2 points 4 days ago (2 children). A decent or a good guy woudnt care about how hassling it is to save their friends. The energy Goku and Vegeta spent in their fight lead to Buu's revival. "The Last of Nappa" (動きはじめた帝王, Ugoki Hajimeta Teiō, lit. [–]atheistvegeta[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 days ago (25 children), [–]134340Goat[M] 0 points1 point2 points 3 days ago (2 children), u/XamisDielectric and u/atheistvegeta - in the future, please endeavor to be polite and respectful of other users; don't go off topic on disrespectful tangents, [–]atheistvegeta[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 days ago* (7 children). Because whenever Vegeta's villainous past is raised, a lot of fans respond defensively that he's saved the world before or that the Dragon Balls undid the damage. 2. And I don't mean remorse as in him being sad because he lost a fight, but actually feeling bad that his actions hurt other people. Civilians – Vegeta violently crash lands his spaceship pod on Earth along with Nappa in East City, killing many humans. Nappa about to be killed by Vegeta's Galaxy Breaker. This change took a long time— there was a point where he disappointed them so much ie. You may link images and videos of official material within a text post for the purposes of discussion, but all of the important points of the discussion should be in your own words. use the following search parameters to narrow your results: Dragon Ball is a Japanese media franchise created by Akira Toriyama in 1984. At least with Goku it makes sense that he doesn't want Raditz back, as Raditz threatened to hurt his and tortured him even after recieving mercy, but Nappa on the other hand did no such thing to Vegeta. So he may want to bring Nappa back and atone for that act. He got what he deserved. Lol why would losing to Goku have anything to do with it? Vegeta Kills Nappa returns GT. He cares for people and values them. Vegeta, as some like to say it, went back to his original self. Horrible Judge of Character: Raditz apparently believed that Nappa and Vegeta would revive him after they got to Earth, as he says that his only regret is that he won't be back in time to see them kill the people of Earth. Enjoy your peace you scum”. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. He paid for his misdeeds with his life. — what does bringing Nappa back even do? When first arriving on Earth, Nappa demonstrated his power by incinerating an entire city instantly. Ki S… Who’s your favorite villain (doesn’t have to be canon) and why? There are things we are ashamed to have done, are best left to history. Vegeta never actually gets to fight Burter himself, but he does end up cleaning up Goku’s … He was bad, and he is dead. Always ask us first before trying to promote your own content. While it is possible that frieza healing chamber could help nappa (frieza himself was rebuilt with mechanical parts so a full healing of the spine maybe would be too much) the poiny was the same. Watch later. Had Vegeta killed Nappa for being evil and genocidal then yes there is no reason he'd take any guilt in that, but that wasn't the reason he killed him in the first place. He had no qualms about Vegeta killing … Clearly killing someone doesn't seem to faze him at all. He enjoyed causing suffering. pretty sure in cannon it cuts everything and only time it's been stopped is filler. Share. Its always about the strangest things, and you refuse to accept facts and make the strangest arguments, like this one here. The gross bug planet that he destroyed? Nappa begs for Vegeta to help him g… Just when Vegeta gained immense power to defeat Cell before Goku could ever do so, Cell goaded him into letting the villainous android achieve his perfect form. [–]VZillaBigSteppa 0 points1 point2 points 2 days ago (0 children), He’ll never bring him bacc but he probably does say some cool shit to himself when he’s alone like, “You can finally rest, Old friend” or “heh..Fool. probably is it just never hits anything. They were the last of the Saiyans, and he murdered him. You're signed out. What defines friends to our culture is different than this barbaric culture of warriors. At last Nappa cared about his comrades and so did the Ginyu's. Nappa committed genocide. If Nappa has been reincarnated, what reason is there to take his spirit back from his new life and force him back into an old life? He would not want to be reminded of those days now that he has a family he loves dearly. Tap to unmute. To say that decision bit Vegeta in … After a defeat so sound by a low class warrior the best outcome for him was to die a warriors death. It's almost 20 years since — if he has felt anything at all about this, it is the regret of being part of the murderous duo with Nappa (or any other groups), whom he too treated with contempt after being defeated by a low-class warrior on Earth. They can even explain it by saying that hell is for eternity (unless they were revived) and there is no reincarnation for deceased souls. Look at it this way — Vegeta's actions serves as an example of how savage the Saiyan people are. 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